Dr. Ma and I first met in 2007 when I invited him to my clinic to teach his dry needling course.  We immediately became friends and over the next 5 years I made several trips to his home in Boulder, CO to collaborate on techniques, research and coursework.

In 2012, Dr. Ma approached me with the great honor of assuming the responsibility of carrying on and expanding his life’s work.  In 2013, I founded the Integrative Dry Needling Institute (IDN) to act as the platform to disseminate the knowledge and courses across the US.  Since then we have trained and certified thousands of clinicians with varied degrees and professional backgrounds.

We have built the IDN team with an amazing group of professional instructors that have undergone a tremendous amount of training to become an IDN instructor and continue to expand their knowledge and understanding of Neurologic Dry Needling. As a group, we continue to make clinically oriented advancements in needling treatment by conducting research to validate the neurological model of dry needling.